The ElitExpert news agency spoke with Irina Palchykova, also known as Indrani, the author of an unusual book about time and its rhythms. For a long time, she taught cultural studies, researched religion and the culture of communication, but at some point she left the academic environment to devote herself to finding answers to the main question: what is time and how to interact with it.
Iryna argues that time is not just numbers on a calendar, but a living energy with which we can enter into a dialogue. Her book is an attempt to synchronize our reality with the natural cycles of the Earth, Moon, and Sun in order to regain lost meaning, rhythm, and inner support.
We talked with Irina about why people lose energy, how to stop aging, why we need knowledge about the correct "reference points" and what nonlinear time is, which you can enter if you know where to look for the entrance.
— Iryna, you were engaged in academic work for many years, teaching at the university. How did it happen that you left all that and took up the topic of time?
— Yes, I taught cultural studies, history of religions, etiquette, communication… I had authored courses both at school and at university. But one day I realized: I was completely uninterested in this. Not at all. Although everything was almost ready — a PhD career. But from some point on, I could no longer follow this path.
What has interested me all my life is hour. I felt that there was some secret in it. I didn't just understand it – I was looking for it. My husband and I traveled half the world, I kept asking myself: where is that starting point, where is the beginning, where is the end? Where is the answer? Who will tell me?
And one day I realized: it's all inside me. Not outside.
— And then you created your own center?
— Yes. I left the institute and founded the Unity Odessa school — that was in 2000. It has been in existence for 25 years now. A center for self-development, and, above all, a place where we studied time. More precisely, we tried to understand how to interact with it. I'm not talking about a clock or a schedule. I'm talking about time as a resource. As a living, energetic substance.
"That's very unusual. How did you study time? What does it even mean to 'work with time'?"
— To talk about time, you have to start from the very beginning. With dinosaurs, if you will. Because time is born from the movement of the stars. A day is the rotation of the Earth around its axis. A year is the movement of the Earth around the Sun. A month is the Moon, its path around the Earth. This is not just astronomy. This is energy. We are talking about energy that is born from the movement of celestial bodies. And if you understand this, you should be able to work with it.
— So you combined science and something more metaphysical?
— We combined astronomy, astrology, mythology, everything. Because I couldn't find the answer anywhere. Not in scientific articles, not in esoteric translations, nowhere. Academic science reached a dead end when it tried to explain what time was. And I knew that it existed as a living force. I felt it since my youth, when I read "The Picture of Dorian Gray", understood — the keys are hidden somewhere there. And I found them.
— Found it?
— I found it. Confirmation came from India. There, people who know how to “see” told me: “You did everything right.” Moreover, this year, at the Indian International Economic Forum, I received the title of one of the most powerful women in the world. As proof of the right path.
— And what is the essence of this knowledge?
— In the fact that time is a resource that does not run out, but is renewed. Every month, every day you can enter it anew, if you know how. But no one teaches us this. On the contrary, we are knocked out of the natural rhythm. A calendar in which the first of March, April, May are just arbitrary dates, is already a distortion. Everything is knocked out.
In order for you to receive the energy of the moon, you must go through the completion, thank it, let go — and only then enter the New Moon, into the new. It's like birth. Like a child: zeroing, and you are given energy for a new circle. And we live without understanding what a reporting point is. So we all have an imbalance. And we need synchronization. Because it removes not only the internal chaos in the human body, but also the chaos in the bodies of the country and the Earth in general.
— Did you put all this in your book?
— Yes. A book is not just information. It is a tool. It has golden rules of time, derived by me. I have already published them in English. They will also be in the Ukrainian edition. This is not esotericism, astronomy, but pure logic: The Earth rotates - this is a day. The month is a month. Everything that we are used to considering "convenient" in the calendar is artificial bindings.
Look: May 20, May 30 — a good date, right? But what does it mean? Nothing. It's just a number. And in fact, each dent has its own time code. Each one. It's a different feeling. When you work with these codes, time starts working with you.
— You mentioned that the New Year should not start on January 1. Why?
— Because the year begins with the winter solstice, when the Sun "dies" and begins a new cycle. The Slavs knew this. The Celts knew this. This is not mysticism - these are the natural rhythms of nature. Our ancestors understood that reference points are important. If you start the year with an artificial date, you are already in dissonance.
And dissonance destroys. A person, a state, a society. That's why we live a short life, we age quickly, we get sick. While with synchronization you can not only live longer - you live differently. You live in harmony with time.
— And you are promoting this idea on international platforms?
— Yes. At the World Economic Forum, I met with advisors to the Prime Minister of India. I presented my book to them, and they promised to print it, and then give it to colleges, universities... For me, this is the main thing, that my ideas work. I live on this planet, and if the rhythm changes, earthquakes, cataclysms, and wars will disappear. I am sure of it.
— You often talk about rhythm. Explain it.
— Everything in this world is rhythm. Every year has its own sound, its own vibration, its own direction. But we don't feel it. We don't feel space or time. We don't know how to use their laws. We learned to work with phones and computers, but we forgot how to work with the rhythm of life.
If you accidentally get into the rhythm of time, you start an amazing year: you manage to do everything, everything is filled with meaning. But it happens the other way around: a year has passed, and nothing. Why? Because you are not synchronized. Rhythm is the key.
— Is this non-linear time?
— Yes. We live in linear time now – point A, point B. But if you know the right entry points, you can exit into non-linear time. Into a space where there is no beginning and no end. Where you simply are. This is not mysticism, this is a different logic of time. This is a spiral, a straight line.
— So it turns out that a person, having mastered this knowledge, can not only live longer, but also reach a different level of perception?
— Exactly. People who have this knowledge are of a different format. They perceive multidimensionally, hear space, feel time. But this must be learned. This is my school. We teach you to see, feel, interact. Not to live by someone else's rhythms, but to find your own.
— You talk about a transition — from one rhythm to another, from one cycle to a new one. What does that mean?
— For most people, the mission seems to end too quickly. Life passes, and the credits roll. That's it. It shouldn't be like this. I constantly felt: there's a mistake in this. There's a secret. And there really is.
But it is not for everyone. I ask for space so that those who are supposed to hear can do so. Others simply gradually leave. And those who hear, go into constant renewal. That is the main thing - to renew. Like a perpetual motion machine. Not to grow old, not to fade away, but to live as long as you want.
— And your book talks about this?
— It's like an eyeliner. I don't write directly. I just help you think about what time is. How to feel it. And how to get through it — from cycle to cycle, year to year, from space to space. Ancient epics, science, and myths talked about this. Especially the Greeks, they understood a lot. Kairos, Chronos, Stars, energy, — all this works if you look not through the eyes of a modern person, but through the eyes of someone who feels the essence.
— Yes, we all understand that myths are not just fairy tales...
— This is encrypted knowledge. Everything is open, but we do not see it. Because we live in Kali Yuga – the age of ignorance. But even within it there are enlightenments. It comes Satya Yuga, Golden Age. And now is the time for transition. Everyone is talking about it: a time for transition, a time for transformation. But no one is taking a step. And what needs to be done is to overcome the impossible, to try.
At our school, I teach meditation — on the transition from one state to another, from one day to another, from one year to another. These are simple things. But when you do them consciously, the energy of time, the energy of the stars, comes. Space becomes different. The Earth is small. You begin to expand. At first a little. Then more. And then you become a person of a different scale.
— Is this the “new man”?
— Yes. This is a person who lives in an expanded perception. And space begins to work with him. This is not esotericism. This is a sense of reality that is available to everyone. There are many such people in my school. One of them is my assistant, Alena. A young mother, a designer, my director, all in one. She is 34, but she is still not always considered an adult. And this is also an indicator – a person does not age when he lives in rhythm.
— Is your school about teaching meditation, expanding perception?
— Yes and no. We give tools. But these are not just mantras. Mantras without understanding are a show. And we teach phonemes — each sound, its energy, its function. Because Sanskrit is a language that reveals your nature. And mantras start working only when you feel them and know what you are saying. Without this, it is an empty sound.
"Did you study with anyone yourself? Did you have a teacher?"
— Yes. I have many teachers. My first teacher is Yuri Nikolaevich Kornilov. He was a cultural scientist, a professor, he taught with me at the university. He taught me the main thing: not to be afraid to think big. Not to listen to authorities, not to give in to fear. But my main teacher is a teacher who has his own ashram in India. He teaches me the laws of the universe and the ability to surrender to unconditional love.
— You say you want to write a second book. Is there already an understanding of what it will be?
— It all depends on how the first one is received. So far there have been only two presentations — in Odessa and in India. But I want it to reach people who have power. Because even if you have money, power, a career — you won't take anything with you. And if you do something for others, for your country — that's a real thing.
I know there are many such people. We are just not connected. My task is to help these people meet. From different countries, cultures, languages. This will be a new circle.
— You say that time and space are not abstractions, but living entities. How do we understand this?
— We are used to dead time. A dead month, a dead year, dead numbers on the calendar. We lived it – we crossed it out. But the energy of what we lived does not return as such, it must be lived consciously. We have a meditation for the return of the energy of the month: review. Not just remembering, but seeing people, events, ourselves anew. Without accusations. Without insults.
— Why is that?
— So as not to live flatly. Flat thinking, flat houses, flat life. After all, everything is multidimensional. My practices are not about philosophy for the sake of philosophy. This applies to everything: to medicine, theater, mathematics. To life.
I decided to share this because the Time has come. Because there is chaos now. The country, the world, the people - all have lost their core. And my book is a way to return this core. To go from destruction to creation. Because time can be ignored, but it will start ignoring you. And you will simply die - not physically, but internally. As a thing without meaning.
— So, meaning is the basis of survival?
— Exactly. When a thing loses its meaning, it becomes old. It is thrown away. The same goes for a person. When it loses its value, life is lost. After all, every person is a treasure. We just need to restore this interaction: with the Earth, with the Moon, with the Sun, with time.
— Is this the exit to non-linear time?
— Yes. We are wrong from the very beginning—from the wrong starting point. When you don't resonate with the heavenly bodies, when you don't know where you are in time, you are closed. The light within you goes out. And everything loses its meaning.
— And what then renews the meaning?
— An idea. A law. Understanding rhythm. Because everything is according to laws. And if we start living according to them again, we will return to ourselves. All the old triggers have exhausted themselves. There is nothing to hold them on to anymore. But a new idea – the idea of time as a living force – is rising. Because it is universal.
— You talked about “expanding the chronofield,” what does that mean?
— This is when you start not just living in the flow, but consciously entering into a day, a month, a year. Expanding it. Not mechanically, but with understanding. This is practice. And it is very simple. As the universe is arranged, so is man.
— So, all work begins with oneself?
— Only from myself. Everything we are talking about is not about interaction with the world somewhere out there. It is about interaction with ourselves. The first steps are within. And if not one, but many do this, then the world begins to change. The collective resonant vision and acceptance of rhythm restarts the entire reality. The main thing is to understand: time and space are not subject to disorder. When we ignore them, they begin to erase us. And if we return our rhythm to ourselves, we become part of the Universe.
— And this rhythm is your idea, your system, your mission?
— It's not mine. It's for the Lord. I just realized it, heard it, experienced it. We're only at the beginning of the journey. We're sitting with you right now, talking — and this is the beginning. And then everything will start to level out. The main thing is not to stop.
— Thank you for this frank conversation! Let it be just the beginning!
Olena Ovchinnikova spoke
